The bombs that failed to explode. Not to mention didn't even reached their targets. The bombs missed the target by 100 meters.
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Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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IAF is answerable to the GOVT of India
IAF is NOT Indian Railways that it will give
The People A Guided tour of all its latest purchases ( Just as Railways show their new trains)
Military Historians still analyse the Second World war
Clausewitz defined War as a tool to make
Your enemy Bend to your Will
If India wants Pakistan to stop terror attacks and if there have been no
Major attacks since Pulwama, whom should the credit Go to
The bombs missed their targets from a distance of 1.5 KM to 500 metres
That's precisely my point. This isn't war. It was a skirmish which ended indecisively. You can argue your point till the cows come home but unless fresh solid evidence comes up, this debate will continue to be infructuous save for scoring brownie points.
Wait we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves.
Pakistan plans such huge terror attacks once in 2-3 years.
We should never ever underestimate Pakistan
Then the Response will be even bigger
And bloodier
Our focus must remain on capabilities building and devising contingency plans
This topic had been closed
It got revived automatically on the First anniversary of Balakot
From experts to general people like me know that IAF has a bigger mouth,I do not want to buy all the theory which want to defend IAF...In simple word, In pressure,they collapsed.. Next ,If you don't release any kind of proof then what was the alternative way to believe your claim.. Nothing....If our agency did not not get any proof of f16 kill then simply fire them up,they are incompetent..
They didn't, the Turks and Russians had made a deal and the Turks haven't reached the Sochi line. The DMZ is inside Syria so the SAA broke the treaty and Turks just attacked in response. Until the Turks don't come near the Sochi line the Russians will not enter and attack the Turks..
Dunno how that works, since the IAF wasn't allowed to retaliate in any case, even if the MKIs had Meteors, but there's nothing wrong in thinking it. Any such perception will help the IAF achieve its modernisation goals in any case.
2 MKIs versus 20-30 jets is simply too much anyway. Even if allowed to engage, the MKIs wouldn't have done any better than attack 4 aircraft, or just 2 aircraft in 2 volleys, whether the missiles hit or not.
True and false.
True, because it is indeed correct when you consider the extra range advantage the Aim-120 has over the MICA. When the MICA first came out, it outranged the AMRAAM, since then the Americans came out with the C5, C7 and D, with all three outranging the MICA, whereas the French never bothered to upgrade the MICA even once.
But false because there's a greater likelihood of the Mirage getting the first shot in versus the F-16 due to tactics. The French have designed their aircraft tactics to make up for the range advantage of the enemy. For example, they challenge an incoming aircraft from altitude while sending another aircraft from low altitude to actually make the kill. And the French believe their EW suite is advanced enough to keep the terrain-masked aircraft hidden long enough to get a first shot in. And this gets even better with Rafale due to its more advanced EW suite compared to the M2000. This is one of the reasons why the French didn't bother to upgrade the MICA. The MICA NG is also expected to not have any range advantage over the Meteor, Aim-260, PL-15, K-77M etc, and the French plan to operate Meteors against HVAs primarily, not fighter jets.
If the resolution is lowered, how will you see the damage?
Becoz even they share their tactics or tech on public platform nobody can rival or counter their techs both China and Russian weapons looks good on paper but when come to practicality its different story ,cheep didn't mean it will be always a good option, also IAF operational doctrine mainly 90- 2k era. Ones becoz still we are long way far from true. Digitalized network centric air force u can hope for major boost only after rafale ,tejas and may be super su upgrades implimentaion not before until then we just focused on one enemy at a time strategy
That's okay, they are not in the job of convincing people. You only have to see the results on the ground.
Its simply becoz saf filed a 3.5 gen aircraft's against a 4 the gen aircraft check saf aircraft list they barely have any multirole aircraft's they relay on ruaf for cas or bombing mission so any aircraft going these mission without Russian escort is a dead duck flying, the reasons why no US fighter shoot downs are low becoz the western platform give importance to survivability of pilot than aircraft in eastern side like Russia and China they more focused on numbers and its specific roles same family fighters with different names for different roles are a living proof for this statement also ec and new of eastern factions fighter not advanced as western ones ( if u have disagreement no prob its just my opinion)
Chinese follow the Russian doctrine of combat so the less said the better. If the Russians enter Syria against the Turks it's a lose-lose situation for them. If they get their *censored* kicked by the Turkish f16 embarrassment for them if they start kicking *censored* of the Turks chances are they lose the s400 deal and the Turks align to NATO. At this point there is no advantage for the Russians to fight along with the SAF.
Also for the 27th Feb. It was a stalemate until and unless we don't prove the strike at balakot, chakoti and muzzafarabad happened with some casualty along with the f16 claim it's a stalemate. Also some members who are shitting on the IAF and comparing it to PA please don't. The IAF is far more credible than the entire Pakistani establishment. If we are talking about proof IA never gave any proof of it's operations and the people have gobbled it up as facts. The 2016 surgical strike was rejected of ever happening by the Pakistanis but still it was not questioned that much. There were many flaws in the way the IAF reacted post balakot but it should be kept in mind that they had gained superiority within the next 10 minutes while the PAF was clueless throughout the whole hour post the balakot strike. IAF underestimated the Pakistanis they never considered that the PAF would be so stupid to come in daytime so blatantly because all they did was give a sucker-punch and run away. The IAF overreacted at the wrong places the mi-17 shoot down and abhinandan going for the f16 shoot down instead of defending the airspace which ended up helping Pak.
Do you know why US sent it's reporters to Baghdad to videograph the air strike during desert storm? For a reason!
Indian babus tried to create an 'awe and shock' psychological effect on Pakistanis. But without visuals it's not an awe and shock. Rather Pakistanis succeeded in doing awe and shock when Abhinanda's image came out. Check mate!
Secondly, what is our intelligence doing? Can't even find the derbies of shot down f16, or single pic? This is terrific
After 15 years what will India have to show to kids, a pic of Abhinandan in blood thrashed by Pakistanis?
Kya ajeeb ch*tiya log hai yar
Only RAW and IB is kept away from RTI
all services are under RTI. I was in Vietnam when 27th happened and there I met bunch of Bangladeshis and they were like, what happened to Modi, we thought he is strong you should have taught Pakistan a lesson and I was like, they watched all that!
tumharey government, minister, babu giri se world mein image nahi banti. do din mein set kar diya Pakistan ne. Aur aisa kya teer mara IAF ne. Did Pakistan learn? Next day they came in.
They are constantly trying to do Pulwama every day!!
Sharam naam ki cheez hai Hindustanio mein to one should learn what is misssing and instead of covering up the left overs. I really feel upset when people claim big stuff while on otherside one cheek is red.
It can still give indication of hit without compromising the true capability of the sensor
Based on what the air chief said, the holes can only be seen with high res imagery. So if you lower the res, you obviously won't see it anymore, it will just be blurred and look like any other surface, which anybody else will pass off as an artifact.
no one is interested in holes on roof. If there was explosion that must have been recorded.