Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

Yes I am surprised no went to dissect those parts which were quickly bundled into a truck while the MIG21 parts were left untouched. I am sure if there was a detailed analysis on these instead of all those high tech tadpole theories we could have had our F16 crash proof a lot easily.
 
Yes I am surprised no went to dissect those parts which were quickly bundled into a truck while the MIG21 parts were left untouched. I am sure if there was a detailed analysis on these instead of all those high tech tadpole theories we could have had our F16 crash proof a lot easily.

This mystery will end up like PNS Ghazi, although it was sunk by IN but Pakistanis peddle lies that it met an accident.
 
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SAP-518 & R-27 ? Interesting :censored:
 
This mystery will end up like PNS Ghazi, although it was sunk by IN but Pakistanis peddle lies that it met an accident.

But the fate of the pilot will come out one day. You can't just erase him from everywhere. There are colleagues, family, dissatisfied politicians etc will open up on a later date.
 
I am not surprized Pakistanis are professionals when it comes to propaganda war, they did their job well by diverting us towards abhinandan
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Gyan given by Raavan still relevant and must be taught to generals of Indian military

1- Do not be the enemy of your charioteer, your gatekeeper, your cook and your brother, they can harm you anytime.
( due to resentment they can end up becoming a spy for ISI or China or US and this has happened)

2- Do not think you are always a winner, even if you are winning all the time.
( 27th Feb 2019 is the example)

3- Always trust the minister, who criticises you.
( get trained to handle Pakistani propaganda from opposition parties)

4-Never think your enemy is small or powerless, like I thought about Hanuman
( Indian air force and intelligence needs to learn that about PAF and ISI respectively)

5- Never think you can outsmart the stars, they will bring you what you are destined to
( Abhinandan going down into the hands of Pakistani military was his destiny, plan ops with worst case scenarios)

6- Either love or hate God, but both should be immense and strong.
( This make you clear about what you are doing why are you doing, Indian leadership has no clear vision)

7--A king who is eager to win glory must suppress greed as soon as it lifts its head.
( valid to most officers in army and beurocracy, they are arrogant humans)

8--A king must welcome the smallest chance to do good to others, without the slightest procrastination.
( you get smallest chance to do well for your country, do it don't linger on)
Wait and watch. Wars are not always fought with missiles and rockets.

Top brass of all brunches are arrogant by profession,it is quite habit of Indian people in india but when they go outside, suddenly their behavior change...
 
Top brass of all brunches are arrogant by profession,it is quite habit of Indian people in india but when they go outside, suddenly their behavior change...

"Apney gali mein kutta bhi sher hota hai". No proper strategy no proper aim. Can't handle domestic propaganda how will they handle external threat? They need proper training. Useless bunch of officers who can't even convince politicians.

Due to Pakistani propaganda, we lost a narrative after 27th feb, we did a good job on aug 5 and then there after riots after riots in our own territory.

What' are they getting paid for?

Ek photo nahi hai inke paas of that shot down F16, and if they have, then keep it hidden, don't show official secrets act, blah blah blah, And by then Pakistan will do it's job, and you people keep scratching your head what went wrong.

Nikamme kahin ke!!
But the fate of the pilot will come out one day. You can't just erase him from everywhere. There are colleagues, family, dissatisfied politicians etc will open up on a later date.

It is required now, not after 6-7 years. Pakistan's lie about Kargil didn't even have a pinch of affect on their foreign policy. They suppressed the effects.

We are discussing Mig 21 F16 blah blah, but whats the point when we can't prove it? 82 Pages of waste material!!
 
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We bought RVV-AE recently. It's because our older stocks of RVV-AE are approaching their shelf life.

So whoever said the RVV-AE won't survive more than 15 days of combat is correct, although this is only in relation to our existing stocks and not new build RVV-AEs.
 
This mystery will end up like PNS Ghazi, although it was sunk by IN but Pakistanis peddle lies that it met an accident.

Na In case of Ghazi even Pakistanis will not know much about the mishap, as the entire crew was also gone down with the sub, add to that the sub lies in Indian water.

In case of F 16 the entire Air force knows what happened, so was the part of army who did the cover up for PAF. Its matter of time the truth would be out
 
Wait and watch. Wars are not always fought with missiles and rockets.
Does this include US leaving Afghanistan dry in few years? Because you have been saying this for long now and the recent developments only strengthen pakistans grip over the occupied areas. Also to take into consideration our economy is all time low, atleast thats what common man seems to think.
Without military force there is no way of getting pok on a platter. This super secret strategy of yours clearly doesn’t seem to be going your way since its inception. 🤔
 
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Does this include US leaving Afghanistan dry in few years? Because you have been saying this for long now and the recent developments only strengthen pakistans grip over the occupied areas. Also to take into consideration our economy is all time low, atleast thats what common man seems to think.
Without military force there is no way of getting pok on a platter. This super secret strategy of yours clearly doesn’t seem to be going your way since its inception. 🤔
Economy is all time low??Really?? Guess you have not seen 2001 or 2009 days !!
 
Economy is all time low??Really?? Guess you have not seen 2001 or 2009 days !!
I did say thats what the common man thinks*. Just open any news every morning and listen. Or ask people around you what they think about the economy. Reality could be far from public perception but public perception wins elections not reality.
 
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I did say thats what the common man thinks*. Just open any news every morning and listen. Or ask people around you what they think about the economy. Reality could be far from public perception but public perception wins elections not reality.
Ok. The more appropriate statement is "what media is projecting". That's not same as "what common man thinks". Of course there will be a segment of people who will buy what media sells. But in long run, if the story is not backed by solid reality it falls apart. As far as elections are concerned, people have become smart enough to segregate local and national issues and the huge variations in national and state election results speak for itself.
 
At PDF, a member (lady?) going by the id dbc has been telling negative things about our armed forces. What do you folks make of his (her?) analysis? I think that she has some connections with the French, but has said that the Mica in Indian Mirages has failed miserably.
 
At PDF, a member (lady?) going by the id dbc has been telling negative things about our armed forces. What do you folks make of his (her?) analysis? I think that she has some connections with the French, but has said that the Mica in Indian Mirages has failed miserably.

Invite her here, we can educate her, rest assured
 
Mostly a Pakistani pretending to be Indian or American. You have a bunch of them on pdf. They banned all Indian members and they don't have anyone to stir the pot. So now the mods are pretending to be Indians with fake ids to get the traffic going.


No matter how much they lie or disguise, now comes the actual question, Pakistan airforce claims , they shot one Su30, where is the video/black box recording? :D