Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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I know that IAF desperately need rafale in large number. But even my PM too repeated the same. The thing is that IAF performance is a mediocre, that too against an airforce like PAF, even IAF personal is admitting that PAF had the better strategy on feb 27
Because PM was crucified for months for going ahead on Rafale deal. It's political for him.
Only thing mediocre that day was the drama of 'Doosra banda'.
Even a Bangladesh airforce with a handful of Mig-29 can pull off the same stunt for 10 minutes in the east.
Their strategy that day was to show force by dropping some bombs across the border. They couldn't even precisely target because of the fast response.
So you want to tell Prime minister of India has performed some cheep political drama to gain political milage, at the expense of a possible bad interpretation of IAF's operations? That wordings clearly giving the message that IAF would have achieved something big with Rafale, literally telling IAF didn't perform well and asper you PM has made that statement to dodge the opposition. Man you are making a serious allegations, i don't think PM ji will do that.
Doosra or thesra, so far there is only thing which we can tell confident, That is Mig21 got a missile hit inside POK.
If Bangladesh airforce has done such thing in peace time then we can't blame IAF. But thing is that PAF performed their stunt tye very next day after Balakot strike. Even our radars picked the multiple PAF airborne, still it happened.
Yes, it is clear as day. Why don't you ask PM ji, if IAF had performed badly that day?. Guess whats the answer is.
Its amusing that you assumed PM ji can't give any interpretable statements but IAF can give clear lies. Like 'We shot down F-16 and we have evidence'.
That's enough of my time.
Radars picked them up , but the Radar controllers couldn't identify the pattern of build up at early stage, and there you have to give PAF credits or criticize the IAF. They did identify the pattern but after losing ample of time. And by the time SAMs were put on high alert. The friendly fire proves that.
PAF was aggressor so they would have given some blows to IAF. It's alright, and it's not uncommon.
I disagree. When you slap some on real hard inside their own home. And when you see the same guy coming with few dudes towards you. You immediately become attentive that he is coming to take revenge. Rather you might yourself won't sleep for a day or two when you are involved in a fight, just to be attentive. Any even smallest manoevure by adversary should be taken as warning.
We never wanted to start a conflict. It was just a training mission where you have to create air Superiority for some minutes. Every air Force do such operations. I don't understand the concept of mig-21 near loc.you have su-30 and where was Tejas? Obviously we want to know more about Tejas. We introduced jf-17 on Feb 27 but we didn't expect mig-21 from your side. Who fly mig-21 these days? Su-30s went cold too early. No indian aerial reinforcement on time.
Our Air force made only One mistake
They failed to Anticipate that PAF would fire Amraam from well within their own territory
Though it didnt cause any loss
Yet it gave them something to brag about Since Su 30s were focused on evading the Amraams
The PANIC that the whole of Pakistani military , society ,PM ,COAS , Media ,
Jokers like Zaid Hamid and his assistant clowns in PDF and elsewhere
SHOW ON A DAILY BASIS
IS PROOF THAT A LOT HAS HAPPENED
AFTER FEB 27 TILL TODAY
The funny thing is you guys cannot show your wounds but the constant CRYING is proof that we have hurt you several times
Whatever. Anyway another aerial battle is a possibility. Let's see who wins this time.
Tell your PAF to come close
Why this fear
Our UAVs.are freely loitering and sending targetting information to our Artillery Command Posts
We are pounding the shit out of your Army
We will come close only if you guarantee that you will face us. Last time,you ran away without facing paf. Don't shy this time. We have very very long range missiles so flying too deep suits our strategy. You should come face to face this time. No more drama. F-16 vs su-30.
I can't comment about army. Civilians are dying daily. No information of soldiers dying. We also fly drones,I mean armed drones. We don't want war. Don't make us aggressive again.
You PDF fanboys are JOKERS.
AT least PAF KNOWS ITS AUKAT
That is why they.stay far away from LOC and.carry on CAPs and.AWACs sorties
The fear of IAF makes you.guys constantly talk of
" Tea is fantastic "
It is like a kid telling his big brother
" See I bit you that day
I will bite you again "
But the poor kid will loose his Jaw this time
That one is a biggest blunder from IAF side, not giving importance to pakistani warning on a retaliation and there by didn't put enough fighter on air round the clock is another blunder.
It was neither a training exercise, it was a meticulously planned attack from PAF.I believe ( may be wrong alaso) this was the plan decided by PAF in the event of IAF limited offensive action, and you have executed that plan after balakot. But you also failed to hit the target, instead throw away the ammunition in an agony ( 11 high costly long range precision guided ammunitions).
And on Mig21, you are absolute right, also IAF has its own reason for not bringing tejas since that time no foc jet was in service with IAF. IAF have a habit of not bringing just inducted toys to battlefield without getting full versed on it, we didn't bring SU30 in 1999 kargil war.
If it is a full scale & without nukes there is no doubt on who will win the war.
This kid is getting boring to watch. Mig-21 is the interceptor you bozo. Where will it be? in bangalore ? LCA is you to reach border deployment.
PAF does fly Mig-21 under name J-7. PAF also used 50 year old Mirage roses at that same day.
AWACS and MKIs were on station. Interceptors reached area when bandits crossed the LoC. Same time more MKIs and Mirages took off from various airbases.
That is as good as it gets. Its not possible to have dozens fighter in patrol around the clock.
How much time would PAF take to scramble 26 aircrafts and how much time would they take to reach close to LC? 26 aircrafts in air would give goosebumps to me if I am watching the radar. And then Indian side plays ROE when they fire Aim120 BVR.
You forgot to add 3 more very. Let me correct it....'We have very very very very very long range missiles so flying too deep suits our strategy.'