IAF Chronicles - A side view of whats going on behind the closed doors in New Delhi
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.The first one looks most practical and most likely scenario. But a lot depends on outcome of 2019 election.
The first option will also be the most expensive.
The second option will be the best. The tender will give us a more competitive pricing. And we will be able to pick a Strategic Partner properly instead of handing it over to the Ambanis.
The third option will be the quickest.
There is no other Strategic Partner for Dassault. DRAL is a done deal.
@vstol Jockey - Best of luck.
Watch out for Prez Macron meeting on saturday. He is aggressively pushing for XXX (triple figure) Rafales under MII in DRAL and also with an assurance of Export orders (X customers with Safransied Kaveri powering Rafales - you know them and you know the stable thrusts which is above what the rich customer wanted few years back).
I request - keep an option for the Saf Kaveri present & heavier version feasibility as well in your plan. You will hit jackpot for sure with that option with the government and specifications looking better and better.
Watch out for Prez Macron meeting on saturday. He is aggressively pushing for XXX (triple figure) Rafales under MII in DRAL and also with an assurance of Export orders (X customers with Safransied Kaveri powering Rafales - you know them and you know the stable thrusts which is above what the rich customer wanted few years back).
I request - keep an option for the Saf Kaveri present & heavier version feasibility as well in your plan. You will hit jackpot for sure with that option with the government and specifications looking better and better.
I wrote a few weeks back, Rafale is decided as future MII. Its done and Dusted. I am not here to compete with them while my design can completely out do them in every department except electronics. MSA SE remains the most formidable design for the world market as it offers stealth at much lower cost. Ukraine has lots of experience with composites and a very vibrant aero industry which has gone bankrupt. Khahrkiv Univ has a wind tunnel which allows me to test my design above Mach-2. And that too with a scaled model of about 1:8.
A very senior officer from IN about to retire from IN on 31st March and also a very reputed test pilot, will get the offer document from my company to join my organisation. He is willing to pick up the offer.
Tender will cause delay and that will increase the price. A 3 years delay means at least 15% increase. So from price point of view, a tender always does not ensure the best deal.
I don't like Anil Ambani either. He has failed in each and every project he has taken so far. But at this point of time, I don't think Rafale is going to go back and accept any other partner, since too much investment has already been done. Plus if they start showing reasonable output from DRAL plant within next year(they have already started anyway), GoI won't have many reasons to say no to Ambani either.
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A F3R can be overhauled to F4.2, so no need to wait.
Or... or if the french air force need a bigger (and maybe new) plane to carry next gen deterrence missile (mach 5), then AMCA and rafale XL can be merged ....
I see more futur in a india-french cooperation than in a german-french one.
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Even ONERA wind tunnel can't handle a 1:1 model. The test area or Kharkiv and Modane wind tunnels is nearly same. But the cost difference is really huge. I even looked at Calspan wind tunnel in USA.All these facilities have big test area but calspan is restricted to just Mach 1.3 while Kharkiv and Modane are good even for hypersonic testing.
Where will you get the money for the testing? I'm sure it will cost a lot. Is the government supporting you with the test or the other sponsors?
My own money. Nothing from government. There is still time for wind tunnel testing as the CFD is yet to be completed and design fully frozen for wind tunnel testing.
DRAL will assemble last 2 rafale of current order of Rafale as per pidelalmirand possibly complete by 2022
after that , they would surely do some work,.. so the agreements now should be covering it.
MII is too big a deal to be signed within that time frame after the elections
so i suspect next piece meal block of 18 or 36 to be partially assembled at DRAL
after that , they would surely do some work,.. so the agreements now should be covering it.
MII is too big a deal to be signed within that time frame after the elections
so i suspect next piece meal block of 18 or 36 to be partially assembled at DRAL
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