Indian Aircraft Crash Notification
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Looks like pilot got disoriented. As vstol said earlier. Tragic
Black-box might reveal more about this. This should not have even taken off judging on the weather visually from the videos, especially when helicopters fly very low.
In the video, you can clearly make out that there is a thud followed by stoppage of engine and rotor sound. clearly a case of CFIT. Maybe it had hit the trees first and than crashed. that explains loss of rotor sound after the thud.
Posting as received from a veteran.
I appreciate the love and concern that is being shown for the loss of the brave men that died in the chopper crash in the Nilgiri hills, close to Wellington. The CDS was to arrive with his wife, his team of officers and men to address the staff college course presently being conducted here. The helicopter, the latest in India’s holdings, took off from SULUR air base. The CO of the squadron was flying the helicopter, with hundreds of hours of flying experience and considerable amount of pre reconnaissance of the flight path. Weather at Wellington was clear. The helicopter has to gain immidiate altitude and fly through a deep ravine, to clear the crest to land at the helipad at the Wellington golf club Coonoor. While the crest was being approached there seems to have been fog which in this place is normal in this season, the fog rolls down the hills, that is from the top moves down. No one knows why the helicopter crashed. But let me assure you, there is no truth in all the stories of enemy actions as some jokers are claiming. Please let the airforce conduct its inquiry and analysis.
he commandant DSSC was waiting at the helipad, the communication was in place. When the helicopter did not reach at its designated time. It was learnt that one helicopter had crashed. This information was given to the police by some local civilians.
Immediately the commandant with all the equipment, security and the medical team, rushed to the site. The civilians were already in location. Trying to rescue people from a raging fire. The civilians showed no fear and were like super humans. Each young boy getting into and trying to dowse the fire. Some even having minor burns. Carrying the injured uphill and through dense under brush. The ambulance drivers just swarmed in, some of them just hearing of the crash. Without being asked. The act of selflessness of the civilians of the NILGIRIS will always be saluted by all military men. You might not be in uniform, but the courage and fortitude on display was impeccable and stupendous.
Three soldiers were alive and rescued, two gave up their life after an hour. The brave men fought until the good lord couldn’t bear their suffering anymore and called them to heaven. Group Captain Varun is still battling it out at Military Hospital Wellington. He needs all your prayers. All the bodies were bought to the hospital. Autopsy was conducted. Wellington the Defence services staff college and the Madras Regimental Centre paid their last tributes to the honourable and brave men today on 09 Dec 2021.
Due to bad weather they couldn’t be flown by helicopter. They are being moved by road to Sulur, for their final journey to their loved ones. The CM Tamil Nadu and the Governor Telangana paid homage. The commandant the Defence Services Staff College, addressed all officers and paid tribute. We prayed together, for the souls of those that left us and for strength to their families. We raised our voice to god unitedly for the survivor, who has two small kids. That god be kind and respect our faith.
The military is a life, it isn’t a job. We are on parade 24 x 7. All activities were carried out as normal.
Brave men in uniform are the epitome of honour, discipline and valour. Gen Rawat was of indomitable spirit, sometimes a one man army. He took decisions for the military that were reformative, futuristic and in the interest of the nation. The lady was always full of grace and charm. Brigadier Tony Lidder, was the epitome of charisma and soldiering, Lt Col Harjinder SIngh a soldier and a gentleman. The pilots thorough professionals and the Jawans all brave men, who did their task with pride and honour. Let’s all not give way to speculation and a media that’s only creating unnecessary sensationalism. This is the truth, from ground zero.
-Neil John-
I appreciate the love and concern that is being shown for the loss of the brave men that died in the chopper crash in the Nilgiri hills, close to Wellington. The CDS was to arrive with his wife, his team of officers and men to address the staff college course presently being conducted here. The helicopter, the latest in India’s holdings, took off from SULUR air base. The CO of the squadron was flying the helicopter, with hundreds of hours of flying experience and considerable amount of pre reconnaissance of the flight path. Weather at Wellington was clear. The helicopter has to gain immidiate altitude and fly through a deep ravine, to clear the crest to land at the helipad at the Wellington golf club Coonoor. While the crest was being approached there seems to have been fog which in this place is normal in this season, the fog rolls down the hills, that is from the top moves down. No one knows why the helicopter crashed. But let me assure you, there is no truth in all the stories of enemy actions as some jokers are claiming. Please let the airforce conduct its inquiry and analysis.
he commandant DSSC was waiting at the helipad, the communication was in place. When the helicopter did not reach at its designated time. It was learnt that one helicopter had crashed. This information was given to the police by some local civilians.
Immediately the commandant with all the equipment, security and the medical team, rushed to the site. The civilians were already in location. Trying to rescue people from a raging fire. The civilians showed no fear and were like super humans. Each young boy getting into and trying to dowse the fire. Some even having minor burns. Carrying the injured uphill and through dense under brush. The ambulance drivers just swarmed in, some of them just hearing of the crash. Without being asked. The act of selflessness of the civilians of the NILGIRIS will always be saluted by all military men. You might not be in uniform, but the courage and fortitude on display was impeccable and stupendous.
Three soldiers were alive and rescued, two gave up their life after an hour. The brave men fought until the good lord couldn’t bear their suffering anymore and called them to heaven. Group Captain Varun is still battling it out at Military Hospital Wellington. He needs all your prayers. All the bodies were bought to the hospital. Autopsy was conducted. Wellington the Defence services staff college and the Madras Regimental Centre paid their last tributes to the honourable and brave men today on 09 Dec 2021.
Due to bad weather they couldn’t be flown by helicopter. They are being moved by road to Sulur, for their final journey to their loved ones. The CM Tamil Nadu and the Governor Telangana paid homage. The commandant the Defence Services Staff College, addressed all officers and paid tribute. We prayed together, for the souls of those that left us and for strength to their families. We raised our voice to god unitedly for the survivor, who has two small kids. That god be kind and respect our faith.
The military is a life, it isn’t a job. We are on parade 24 x 7. All activities were carried out as normal.
Brave men in uniform are the epitome of honour, discipline and valour. Gen Rawat was of indomitable spirit, sometimes a one man army. He took decisions for the military that were reformative, futuristic and in the interest of the nation. The lady was always full of grace and charm. Brigadier Tony Lidder, was the epitome of charisma and soldiering, Lt Col Harjinder SIngh a soldier and a gentleman. The pilots thorough professionals and the Jawans all brave men, who did their task with pride and honour. Let’s all not give way to speculation and a media that’s only creating unnecessary sensationalism. This is the truth, from ground zero.
-Neil John-
If you are carrying 14 people in Bad Weather , that is a Huge Risk
There should be some change in Rules , Such large group of people should travel by Road
In Mettupalayam town in between Sulur Airforce Station & Coonoor. Locals in large queues sending off India’s CDS Gen Bipin Rawat for one last time by showering flowers.
Don't these helicopters are equipped with collision or terrain avoiding systems, If they can fly at night I don't see there are any issues.
MI17 is very old platform just like MiG-21s technologically speaking general point of view, even with all the upgrades it doesn't become latest generation technology equipped helicopter. That's my understanding in simple. There are some limits upto which a legacy aircraft can be upgraded.
The sound before the crash is that of main rotors chopping off something followed by the mainbody of the helicopter hitting the same thing and crashing. That is the reason we hear three disticnt counds. Chopping of something, helicopter hitting something and engines and rotor sound going off as a result.
unfortunately, they are not equipped with such an equipment.
It needed HTAWS which is mandatory in all civilian choppers in Europe and Russians probably don’t use it for cost cutting.
I don’t think even ALH has HTAWS.
@randomradio
PS: Many times military pilots intentionally turned it off due to its intrusive nature.
On the basis of seniority, Gen Naravane is going to be the next CDS.
He seems very calm and composed kind of person. But as per Print article, it will create problems in selection of next Army Chief.
There are no other rules formulated yet for CDS appointment.
He seems very calm and composed kind of person. But as per Print article, it will create problems in selection of next Army Chief.
There are no other rules formulated yet for CDS appointment.
hey Yamraj, let 13 be the unlucky number. Ek ko toh chodh de. Let us pray for Gp.Capt. Varun.
May be an out of query. So KA226 will be safer to operate over Himalayas than our LUH? KA226 is twin engined with Contra rotating rotors while LUH is a conventional aircraft,but with single engine.
I also Googled for Contra Rotating helicopters and found KA 226
We should buy them off the Shelf
Gen Narwane for CDS
VCOAS Gen Mohanty to be promoted as COAS
Sir in the short video we have seen
Why is the pilot Not trying to gain
Altitude
That are is a Hilly Terrain
The helicopter just crashed on the Side of the Hill after hitting the Trees