Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions

Let's see. One month ago everybody was scoffing at the idea of f15 even being considered in the mmrca now there are rumours of them being bought in a g2g deal. Now even "officials" are saying that the IAF is interested in getting the f15. These type of rumours did not even come up for either the f18 or f16. Personally even I wasn't expecting these type of news "leaks" to happen.
So in my opinion f15 chances have only increased from the previous 1% to atleast a 20% chance of them joining the IAF. And f15 will be a great replacement for our jaguars,mig27 and mig 23. And I'm assuming the IAF also thinks so..
Lolwa is gaining territory.
 
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There is nothing to see. There is no requirement for such platform. Unless you scrap the entire Su-30 inventory today.

You can self imagine all kind of scenarios if you want to. But I would recommend Tom Clancy's books instead.
Well I maybe wrong here but f15EX can do a good job of a deep strike interdictor and replace the jaguar. The problem is rafale can do the same. But f15 has a bigger variety of arsenal and I don't think rafale can use cbu 105 without any modification. The f15 can use most of the weapons on the jaguar and adds all the other munitions from the U.S inventory too. But I do agree that rafale can pretty much do mostly everything the f15EX does but the f15EX can do it for cheaper and with better effect if you remove the lifecycle cost which will be still cheaper when compared to legacy f-15's..
 
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Let's see. One month ago everybody was scoffing at the idea of f15 even being considered in the mmrca now there are rumours of them being bought in a g2g deal. Now even "officials" are saying that the IAF is interested in getting the f15. These type of rumours did not even come up for either the f18 or f16. Personally even I wasn't expecting these type of news "leaks" to happen.
So in my opinion f15 chances have only increased from the previous 1% to atleast a 20% chance of them joining the IAF. And f15 will be a great replacement for our jaguars,mig27 and mig 23. And I'm assuming the IAF also thinks so..
MMRCA. M for Medium.... is F15 EX or not EX a medium fighter? definitively not. End of discussion.

F15EX will be fine with HMRCA. H for heavy.
 
culinary... it's better than the english gastronomy, but far less those of China, Italy, France...
Beautifull women... if you love hair on the arms.... :LOL:
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In 2 days the Trump administration will probably vanished....
And why a g to g deal with USA will interfere with another with France ? Never forget that Rafale has already a foot in India....
Most probably he will lose.
 
The French Air & Space Force has declared the first operational capability of the TALIOS laser designation pod.

BY LAURENT LAGNEAU - 4 NOVEMBER 2020

Two years ago, the French Armament Procurement Agency [DGA] announced the qualification of the new TALIOS multifunction optronic nacelle which, developed by Thales, was to be implemented by the Rafale F3R, the latest evolution of the fighter aircraft produced by Dassault Aviation.

Since then, this TALIOS [TArgeting Long-range Identification Optronic System] nacelle, of which 45 units have been ordered, has been used by the Rafale Marine F3R for the Foch mission, which was conducted by the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier and its naval aviation group during the first quarter of this year.

At the time, the Armed Forces General Staff [EMA] explained that "this ramp-up phase [was] soon to be followed by operational commissioning on the Rafale Marine, which will authorise its use in a theatre of operations. »

As for the French Air & Space Force [aAE], it was not until 29 October that its headquarters decided to give the first operational capability to the Rafale F3-R of this new optronic nacelle. The announcement was made on 3 November.

"This new pod [nacelle in French] will gradually equip all Rafale squadrons of the French Air & Space Force and will be deployed in theatres of operation. Talios is perfectly adapted to the current commitments for the benefit of operations Chammal in the Levant and Barkhane in the Sahel-Saharan strip. It is particularly well suited to fire support or armed reconnaissance missions," he explained on this occasion.

The TALIOS gondola brings significantly increased capabilities compared to the Damocles pod it is supposed to replace. More accurate thanks to its high-resolution electro-optical and infrared sensors, it can identify and track moving targets day and night, enabling longer-range strikes.

Using augmented reality to add markers to a given area, the TALIOS gondola is also equipped with "non-traditional NTISR capabilities" [Non-Traditional Information, Surveillance and Reconnaissance], which allow strike and reconnaissance missions to be carried out simultaneously, with the data collected being transmitted in real time.

Moreover, its "man-system" interface has been designed in such a way that only the information essential to understanding the often complex tactical situation is presented to the crew. This interface is complemented by an integrated Rover capability, which enables images to be exchanged with ground troops, and its maintenance in operational condition [MCO] is facilitated by a predictive maintenance system, which provides a report on its condition at the end of each mission.

"TALIOS, together with the Damocles nacelle, will form the backbone of the Mirage 2000 D and Rafale [Air and Navy] targeting nacelles, and has significant potential for further development," concludes the French Air & Space Force.

The developments in question were described by Thales in November 2018. Indeed, the company had mentioned the development of an advanced SRI [intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance] function that brings together "reconnaissance modes and algorithms for the detection and automatic recognition of targets" thanks to the contribution of artificial intelligence. "Other functions under development will also provide significant assistance to the crews, such as high-definition colour imaging and the 'Permanent Vision' function of the nacelle, which presents a real-time image superimposed on a 3D map of the environment," he added.
 
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Threatened by Rafale aircraft, panicky Pakistan rushes to China to buy fighter jets and missiles

In a major boost to the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) firepower, three more French Rafale multi-combat fighter jets are expected to arrive in India very soon. Five Rafale jets flew to the Ambala airbase via Abu Dhabi on July 29 and have already been inducted into the IAF’s Squadron 17. However, this has led to panic and tension in Pakistan and it has rushed to China begging for help.

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Amid fear over India procuring Rafale jets, Pakistan is trying to buy more than 30 J-10 (CE) fighter jets and its missiles under emergency purchase from China. According to sources, in October, a team from Pakistan visited China and finalized the discussion of buying 50 J-10 (CE) fighter jets. Now, Pakistan is trying to procure 30 jets and missiles, out of the total 50, under emergency purchase.
Discussion of buying Chinese J-10 started in 2009: Pakistan started discussing the purchase of Chinese J-10 in 2009, but after the talk of joint production of JF17 jet started, it was put on hold. After the Rafale jet came to the Indian Air Force, Pakistan started that discussion again. According to sources, a 13-member team of Pakistani officials went to China on October 22 to finalize the deal.

Feature of J10 (CE) jets: The J10 (CE) is the export version of the J-10C of the Chinese Air Force and is believed to be of 4.5 generation. The J10 was inducted into the Chinese Air Force in 2006. It also has PL10 and air-to-air PL15 missiles up to 250 km apart from improved radar (AESA). This single-engine fighter jet can carry up to 6000 kg of arms at a time. It can fit 11 missiles or bombs.

Pakistan worried about Rafale's missiles: Pakistan's concerns are the air-to-air METEOR missiles in Rafale and the MICA missiles on the ground. There is no fighter jet of Pakistani Air Force equipped with these missiles. The Pakistani Air Force has the largest number of Chengdu J7, Mirage 3 and Mirage 5 which are five decades old and can be considered equivalent to MiG-21.

Even adding modern 110 JF17 and 75 F16, the number of good fighters is very less in front of the number of MiG-29, Mirage 2000 and Sukhoi 30 of the Indian Air Force. With the arrival of Rafal, this balance is completely tilted in favour of the Indian Air Force. The Pakistani Air Force is also concerned about the world's best S-400 air defence system, which is likely to be supplied to the Indian Air Force by 2021.

The five Rafale jets were inducted at the IAF’s Ambala airbase on September 10 in the presence of Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh and his French counterpart Florence Parly. Under the 2016 agreement, India will get 36 Rafale jet from France as part of a Rs 59000 crore deal.

The next batch of three Rafales will arrive in Ambala airbase on November 4 directly from the Bordeaux-Merignac facility, according to sources. The three Rafales will reach Ambala by flying non-stop from France. They will also be accompanied by French Air Force fighter and mid-air refueller. With their arrival, the total number of Rafale aircraft in the Indian Air Force will reach eight.

The Rafale jets will fly directly from Istres in France to Jamnagar and they will be accompanied by French Air Force mid-air refuelling aircraft. A team of experts led by Assistant Chief of Air Staff (Projects) is coordinating the logistical issues for receiving the three combat jets, according to news agency IANS. The air force pilots are being trained in batches in France at Saint-Dizier air base.

Seven Rafale fighters are already being used for IAF fighter pilot training in France.

Earlier after the induction of the Rafale aircraft, Rajnath Singh had said that the Rafale deal is a game changer. "I am confident our air force has acquired a technological edge with Rafale," the minister had pointed out. The Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and has the latest weapons, superior sensors and fully integrated architecture. It is an omni-role aircraft which means it can carry out at least four missions in one sortie.
 
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Threatened by Rafale aircraft, panicky Pakistan rushes to China to buy fighter jets and missiles

In a major boost to the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) firepower, three more French Rafale multi-combat fighter jets are expected to arrive in India very soon. Five Rafale jets flew to the Ambala airbase via Abu Dhabi on July 29 and have already been inducted into the IAF’s Squadron 17. However, this has led to panic and tension in Pakistan and it has rushed to China begging for help.

897096-rafale-a.jpg

Amid fear over India procuring Rafale jets, Pakistan is trying to buy more than 30 J-10 (CE) fighter jets and its missiles under emergency purchase from China. According to sources, in October, a team from Pakistan visited China and finalized the discussion of buying 50 J-10 (CE) fighter jets. Now, Pakistan is trying to procure 30 jets and missiles, out of the total 50, under emergency purchase.
Discussion of buying Chinese J-10 started in 2009: Pakistan started discussing the purchase of Chinese J-10 in 2009, but after the talk of joint production of JF17 jet started, it was put on hold. After the Rafale jet came to the Indian Air Force, Pakistan started that discussion again. According to sources, a 13-member team of Pakistani officials went to China on October 22 to finalize the deal.

Feature of J10 (CE) jets: The J10 (CE) is the export version of the J-10C of the Chinese Air Force and is believed to be of 4.5 generation. The J10 was inducted into the Chinese Air Force in 2006. It also has PL10 and air-to-air PL15 missiles up to 250 km apart from improved radar (AESA). This single-engine fighter jet can carry up to 6000 kg of arms at a time. It can fit 11 missiles or bombs.

Pakistan worried about Rafale's missiles: Pakistan's concerns are the air-to-air METEOR missiles in Rafale and the MICA missiles on the ground. There is no fighter jet of Pakistani Air Force equipped with these missiles. The Pakistani Air Force has the largest number of Chengdu J7, Mirage 3 and Mirage 5 which are five decades old and can be considered equivalent to MiG-21.

Even adding modern 110 JF17 and 75 F16, the number of good fighters is very less in front of the number of MiG-29, Mirage 2000 and Sukhoi 30 of the Indian Air Force. With the arrival of Rafal, this balance is completely tilted in favour of the Indian Air Force. The Pakistani Air Force is also concerned about the world's best S-400 air defence system, which is likely to be supplied to the Indian Air Force by 2021.

The five Rafale jets were inducted at the IAF’s Ambala airbase on September 10 in the presence of Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh and his French counterpart Florence Parly. Under the 2016 agreement, India will get 36 Rafale jet from France as part of a Rs 59000 crore deal.

The next batch of three Rafales will arrive in Ambala airbase on November 4 directly from the Bordeaux-Merignac facility, according to sources. The three Rafales will reach Ambala by flying non-stop from France. They will also be accompanied by French Air Force fighter and mid-air refueller. With their arrival, the total number of Rafale aircraft in the Indian Air Force will reach eight.

The Rafale jets will fly directly from Istres in France to Jamnagar and they will be accompanied by French Air Force mid-air refuelling aircraft. A team of experts led by Assistant Chief of Air Staff (Projects) is coordinating the logistical issues for receiving the three combat jets, according to news agency IANS. The air force pilots are being trained in batches in France at Saint-Dizier air base.

Seven Rafale fighters are already being used for IAF fighter pilot training in France.

Earlier after the induction of the Rafale aircraft, Rajnath Singh had said that the Rafale deal is a game changer. "I am confident our air force has acquired a technological edge with Rafale," the minister had pointed out. The Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and has the latest weapons, superior sensors and fully integrated architecture. It is an omni-role aircraft which means it can carry out at least four missions in one sortie.
One of the best support possible for another Indian Rafale batch.
Thank you Pak.