yeah.....I don' think even you believe that. HAL did not want to take responsibility so we asked Dominos Pizza to make a fighter jet. Why didn't all powerful Modiji call up MOD and say 'Ask HAL to guarantee the quality and stanrds of their build'. Surely that is just a phone call away. God knows the IAF makes them walk the plank on stuff a lot lesser than this. This is rigging...plain and simple.
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yeah.....I don' think even you believe that. HAL did not want to take responsibility so we asked Dominos Pizza to make a fighter jet. Why didn't all powerful Modiji call up MOD and say 'Ask HAL to guarantee the quality and stanrds of their build'. Surely that is just a phone call away. God knows the IAF makes them walk the plank on stuff a lot lesser than this. This is rigging...plain and simple.
True, but does it matter? Where is the common sense, in cutting down numbers, by arguing the enemies have inducted more than twice the numbers we wanted and even with superior technical capabilities? Isn't that a reason to buy all 126, if not more?
Can you explain why Govt of India
Could not complete the Negotiations
In MMRCA 1
Negotiations started in 2012
Then after 2014 Modi Govt also tried for one year
The MMRCA 1 terms and conditions were
Impractical
We lost 3 years in Negotiations in MMRCA 1
IAF was getting screwed
Dassault only had to play a waiting game
And they got a bigger order ,36 planes
Compared to the earlier 18 Fly away planes
IAF was getting screwed
Dassault only had to play a waiting game
And they got a bigger order ,36 planes
Compared to the earlier 18 Fly away planes
So only a Licence assembly deal is good enough
Was there any TOT for DRDO
https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...of-frances-e4-billion-india-offsets-plan.html
there was more TOT in the 126 deal than anything modi negotiated. Are you trying to mislead by pointing what offsets is coming ? Tell IT team to train you better.
IAF gave 3 options to Govt in earlier
MMRCA 1deal
1 Continue negotiations Indefinitely
2 Withdraw RFP ie MMRCA 1
3 Buy 36 off the Shelf
No you are lying , that is what you Congi goons do
The one and only mistake is to involve that
Panvati Ambani
Otherwise this deal is hundred times better
The opposition is also picking out One Company from the 70 odd companies
That will work with Dassault
That's not entirely correct. Yes the work share issue (that was the he first one Dassault made up) was cleared by 2014. But neither UPA, nor NDA reached a final stage in the the negotiations, because Dassault refused RFP rules..
The only official info on the total costs remains DM Parrikars statement about 90.000 crores.
The figure Ajay Shukla is referring to, is said to be the initial bid of Dassault in the MMRCA.
And to sum it up, Congress asked if the flyaway Rafale in the MMRCA was negotiated at a cost of 526 crores per unit and if that wasn't cheaper. But so far, there is no confirmation of the hat figure. We know however that the flyaway unit cost for the Rafale deal was 670 crores per unit.
You are a frog in a well ,croaking indefinitely
Read the Twitter accounts and Timelines of
Many Experts who have their own Verified Twitter accounts
Only the Fly away costs in both the deals
Can be compared
Which is 9 percent cheaper in the Second deal as Trappier said
The Rest will come out in CAG report
Wrong, Trappier stated in recent CNBC interview, that the flyaway cost would be the same for the 18 in MMRCA and 36 in the Rafale deal, but that the "package" / total cost, would be 9% cheaper compared to the MMRCA. None of this can be confirmed however, without disclosing costs.
actually it was not that UPA could not reach final stages of negotiations. They decided not to reach final stages for obvious reasons.
The real question is
Did we ever conclude the PRICE negotiations in the First Deal
Or we were only talking Technicalities , Work share , Guarantees , Liabilities , Man hours
Did we ever conclude the PRICE negotiations in the First Deal
Or we were only talking Technicalities , Work share , Guarantees , Liabilities , Man hours
Process that lead to cancellation of MMRCA and decision making for the Rafale deal =>
Where does it say anything about a request, or an option by IAF for 36 Rafales?
The real Gain in Any deal is TOT and Domestic offsets , which help Domestic industry and manufacturing
That is where Two deals can be compared
Other wise even Saudis Buy planes worth Billions
there were more domestic offsets in the UPA deal. Saudi buying planes is better than Modi buying planes.
Nope, they had the same problem that NDA now gives as reasons too. Non compliance to RFP and production costs. And both governments should had shown more strength against Dassault, instead of letting them being played for 3 years.