Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions

Nope, they had the same problem that NDA now gives as reasons too. Non compliance to RFP and production costs. And both governments should had shown more strength against Dassault, instead of letting them being played for 3 years.

Nnoppe- the UPA did not sign the deal because they knew in 2012 itself they were going to lose the next elections. So they took the negotiations to an advanced level and left it for the next government to close things. It is for for the same reason why Modi will stop the deal with 36 jets- he will not take a call on the rest of the 90 jets.
 
I didn't get your point

The point is, that the government in it's own explanation of the process, doesn't mention a request made by IAF, or that they considered options given by IAF.
The whole "emergency" claim, is explained only by the arms deals of our enemies. We still don't know who came up with the cut down numbers, who was part of the decision making process, or when the decision was made as well.
 
Nope, they had the same problem that NDA now gives as reasons too. Non compliance to RFP and production costs. And both governments should had shown more strength against Dassault, instead of letting them being played for 3 years.

You are Right

We should have Negotiated with Eurofighter

Or better else with Americans

That would have REDEFINED Stupidity

Negotiating with Four Countries ie Eurofighter consortium , was a nightmare
We were not prepared for
 
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The absolute truth. Any unpopular government that signs a big ticket deal runs the risk of being accused of corruption. Congress protected itself by not signing it. Now they reap the rewards- they can accuse BJP of corruption as much as they want.
 
You are Right

We should have Negotiated with Eurofighter

Or better else with Americans

That would have REDEFINED Stupidity

Negotiating with Four Countries ie Eurofighter consortium , was a nightmare
We were not prepared for

First of all, what has that to do with the part you quoted?

Secondly, if you read the documents the government provided now, you will see that they refer to MMRCA evaluation as the Base for their process. That alone would require to consider the EF for a G2G deal as well, since the evaluation found it to be technically qualified too.

And no you don't need to negotiate with 4 countries, since any EF export proposal is lead by a single company and country. In Indias case sadly Airbus and Germany.
 
You can ask for the MOON

The question is whether anybody willing to sell it

If you are running against Time with enemies breathing down your neck , you will have to cut down on your demands
yes, which is why modi reduced numbers to 36 and delayed induction by more than 4 years when enemies are breathing down our necks-- to get the MOON
 
The point is, that the government in it's own explanation of the process, doesn't mention a request made by IAF, or that they considered options given by IAF.
The whole "emergency" claim, is explained only by the arms deals of our enemies. We still don't know who came up with the cut down numbers, who was part of the decision making process, or when the decision was made as well.

The need is for more planes

That is why Mmrca 2 is in progress

The whole 36 plane deal was to save IAF from obsolescence and India France relations

There is every possibility that Rafale will get
Mmrca 2
 
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First of all, what has that to do with the part you quoted?

Secondly, if you read the documents the government provided now, you will see that they refer to MMRCA evaluation as the Base for their process. That alone would require to consider the EF for a G2G deal as well, since the evaluation found it to be technically qualified too.

And no you don't need to negotiate with 4 countries, since any EF export proposal is lead by a single company and country. In Indias case sadly Airbus and Germany.

Both Germany and UK are Mofos

They would have harassed us 10 times more
Regarding Kashmir , NPT , Human rights

France does not interfere in other countries
 
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More planes are coming after M mrca 2

This process will happen quickly

yes...4 years gone not even one plane of selected type has come in. And now fraud project to give money to more friends like adani will come in 'quickly' when even plane has not been selected. BHKT sure has fantasies.
 
The absolute truth. Any unpopular government that signs a big ticket deal runs the risk of being accused of corruption. Congress protected itself by not signing it. Now they reap the rewards- they can accuse BJP of corruption as much as they want.

The Question is Can Any Wrongdoing be proved

Allegations are very easy to make

People still call Man mohan Singh as
Pakistani Agent
 
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The Question is Can Any Wrongdoing be proved

Allegations are very easy to make

People still call Man mohan Singh as
Pakistani Agent

no one except hardcore BJP fan call MMS pakistani agent. Everyone calls Modi ambani agent for sure.
 
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yes...4 years gone not even one plane of selected type has come in. And now fraud project to give money to more friends like adani will come in 'quickly' when even plane has not been selected. BHKT sure has fantasies.

This 36 plane deal has given us breathing space

The Mmrca 2 can happen between HAL and Dassault
 
it was a simple straight forward thing- 5 planes evaluated, one plane selected, deal finalized, sign it and get the *censored*ing jets. But no- Modi will screw with the deal, change terms, make sure that ambanis will get a few billion, inflate prices by 40% and end result- India would have had one squadron fly away by now and local consutruction would have started. Instead we pay more, only one plane built no local construction yet. And while modi robs the country blind bhkt will wate time talking about pappu. gau etc.

None of that really happened. The failure of the MMRCA had nothing to do with the govt.
 
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no one except hardcore bhkt call MMS pakistani agent. Everyone calls Modi ambani agent for sure.

UPA gave 1 lakh crore deals to Ambani

Just Google it

Ambanis owe their success to Congress and Rajiv Gandhi

In 1989 elections , during Bofors controversy, (I was a kid , )I asked my father's friends , whom did you vote for


They said since we have Reliance shares , so we vote for Congress to protect Ambani 😂
 
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